I am very grateful to Dr Jonathan Cole for his invitation to appear on his podcast The Political Animals.

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We spoke about 'Symbolism and the Sacred in Cities,' taking cues from my book From the Ancient Near East to Christian Byzantium: Kings, Symbols, and Cities (Cambridge Scholars Publishing, 2021), but also discussing the decline and mutation of symbolism in modern cities.

It was a joy to be a part of this. Please listen, share and subscribe to Jonathan's fantastic podcast which features renowned scholars and public figures, together with whom he deftly navigates the intersection between the political and the religious in the public domain.

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